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September 13, 2006

I’m a guy like me!

Filed under: Musings,Top Draws — Santhosh @ 5:42 AM

The Grandfather paradox goes something like this. Let’s say you got yourself a time machine and decided to go back in time. And once there, let’s say you suddenly got as crazy as some of my posts tend to do, and decided to kill your grandfather when he was very young, and thus render your own birth impossible.
In other words, you could kill a younger version of yourself so that you would not exist in the future to travel back in time. The Grandfather paradox shows how one form of time travel could violate causality by eliminating the cause of a phenomenon that has already taken place in the present.
Yes. It IS something like making sure Internet Explorer 1.0 did not come out, so that we would now not have to work on IE 7.

Theory 1
Now, researchers have worked their time to the max (oh yes, there are others too who have their thoughts on this, it’s just that they don’t use the term blog – they use much simpler phrases like academic journals or research thesis literature), and have come up with an answer :
This might be based on the quantum physics theory of “quantum realities” which states that for any event there is an infinite number of outcomes, so choices made by someone will determine the outcome of such an event. But for every reality there will be a different outcome. So if you kill your grandfather in one timeline, this will automatically create a separate timeline in which you would remain. Any actions you do from there on would have no effect on the timeline you came from.
This concept of multiple timelines has always fascinated me. You could be YOU in one timeline, Brad Pitt in another, James Bond in yet another, or the prime minister’s pet poodle to which Bond makes love to in yet another line.

My rider to it.
Now let’s say granddaddy had two sons – your dad and his brother. And let’s say your dad was somewhat as troublesome as you, and so grandpa, on his deathbed, left all his estates and horses and jewels to your dad’s brother, and nothing to your dad. Now let’s say you go back in time and visit grandpa’s grave the day after he was buried. Now according to the theory of quantum realities, your grandpa cant be alive in any other timeline, coz nothing’s happened to save him from dying. So the will signing, the dying and the burying have all happened in just one timeline. Now you then dig up his grave, cut off his forefinger (for carbon dating verifications), and bury him back. Now you come back to your present and call up your lawyer and your big bad cousin and your heroine and go dig up grandpa’s grave and ‘discover’ he could not have signed the will as he had lost his finger before and so the will is invalid (carbon dating again and a long lost family friend of grandpa’s should be enough testimony). So now you’ll get your share of estates and horses and whatever debts that your uncle has run up, and can go off with your heroine into the sunset.

One other rider I thought up was to go place a time-bomb (the term time-bomb now takes on a whole new meaning here) inside the grave into which grandpa is about to be buried, a day before the funeral, so that everyone there goes puff! And then your dad (who was not invited to the funeral) can inherit all the wealth directly, so that you can take care of just the running up debts part.

Theory 2
There are actually numerous ways around the Grandfather Paradox that don’t even involve skipping dimensions. The general idea, though, is that you absolutely CANNOT change the facts of time. For example, Internet Explorer 1.0 came out in August 1995. This is a fact of time. So even if you travel back in time, you can not alter this fact (as much as we’d all like to), as it would result in metaphysical impossibility. However, you could be a contributor to the fact that Internet Explorer 1.0 was introduced. For example, you could go back and end up playing a critical part on Internet Strategy Day, the convention where Microsoft decided to introduce Internet Explorer 1.0 (History of IE). Or maybe you’ll go back and end up as the first person to beta test IE. (Now, just think what your conscience would say to that. I changed this post from first person to second person just to keep mine asleep).

My rider to it.
I think to embrace influencing time through time travel, you would absolutely have to take a deterministic view of time, because every influence you create must add to the fact that something, like the development/introduction of IE, happened. The fact that facts can’t be changed means going back in time leads to approaching an inevitable deadline. If you were going back in time to save the world from IE, and you somehow caused the development/introduction to take place, then it only occurred because you were there. This means that the first time the situation happened, you weren’t there (because you hadn’t been born yet), so the IE introduction couldn’t have occurred because it only happens if you are there. However, then you would have no reason to go back in time. It seems like this could apply to any situation.

Some others:
Or let’s say you travel back in time and fall in love with a woman, who in your own timeline would be your grandmother, and in essence you will become your own grandfather. (But unfortunately if I’m my own grandpa, there go my dreams of inheriting great wealth and intelligent genes).
If you fell in love with your grandmother and had offspring, those offspring are now different (not to mention inbred at this point) and may pursue other love interests (other than your mother or father) or not pursue it at all.
By falling in love with your grandmother you would displace your grandfather from the original path, and so your parents, making you non-exsistant.

If you went back in time and stopped yourself from eating parathas, what force would remove them from your stomach after you ate it after all. But don’t be suprised if a second you comes back and tells you (the very confused you who just wanted to eat parathas in peace) that you will be very hungry and it just isn’t worth it. Also what force is going to add the parathas to the 2nd time travelling you’s stomach. But then don’t be suprised if a 3rd time travelling you comes back and tells you all that if you get caught using the time machine like this you will need to find a new job. AND what then when your boss materializes behing this 3rd one and fires you. Are you any less unemployed simply because you (the you who wanted just to eat parathas) never got to use the time machine that you were fired for abusing.

We would also need to evolve a whole new range of verb tenses to deal with time-travel. Like when you want to talk about what you ‘will’ do once you go back to the past, or what you ‘did’ before you ‘left’ the future, or what would ‘had’ already happened when you go back 100 years next week.



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  2. a good serious discussionsomething which was lacking amid all that humour…good one da

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  5. @Crappy Logicthanks daand i really am tired of askin u “wat abt ur blog”, so let’s skip it for this time…;)

    Comment by santhosh — September 19, 2006 @ 1:21 AM | Reply

  6. any plans on taking up geneology buddy?wud be fun to go trace your lineage in your diary

    Comment by anandh — September 19, 2006 @ 3:04 AM | Reply

  7. @anandhnot exactlycoz that wud create different timelines as to whether i did maintain a diary or not…;)

    Comment by santhosh — September 19, 2006 @ 3:17 AM | Reply

  8. i’m going back next week dai have my granpa to take care of,cud need help.coming?need to book tickets

    Comment by prakash — September 19, 2006 @ 7:08 PM | Reply

  9. machan oru kolapu kolapita da…

    Comment by Sathappan Sathappan — September 19, 2006 @ 10:42 PM | Reply

  10. @prakashparavalai da,without la povom;)

    Comment by santhosh — September 20, 2006 @ 1:10 AM | Reply

  11. @sath:)aedho nammalala mudinjadhu

    Comment by santhosh — September 20, 2006 @ 1:11 AM | Reply

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    Comment by Anonymous — August 12, 2007 @ 2:52 AM | Reply

  13. wow… this really will really be getting me into deep thinking mode day yesterday!!

    Comment by Mark IV — August 13, 2007 @ 11:08 AM | Reply

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